Monday, January 22, 2007
January 22, 2007
I have received a few responses to the relatively small number of blogs I have put up, and the most enthusiastic of them come from evangelical Christians and revolve around my calling the major religions of the world “credible”. I want to state here that this is not necessarily a religious blog, but do consider myself an amateur theologian. Spending a bit of my time reading from various religious and theological texts. I am most interested in the historical views of Jesus and the early Christians.
For the most part, whenever I speak with an evangelical Christian and mention my own belief in the validity of other faiths, they throw the Gospel of John at me. Hence I will respond to the e-mails I have received and then stay away from this topic for a while.
I have also gotten a few corrections in regards to my grammer, my defense is that I am originally from New Orleans where english is a second language. I use and editor for my "real" writing.
Okay, so here goes:
Now, here’s where I really piss off the fundamentalists, because I take the personal view that the Book of John is more of a Kitty Kelly unauthorized biography of Christ, or, more to the point, a book of political propaganda, used by the early church to separate itself from its ties to the Jewish faith, than an actual “witness” to the life and words of Jesus of Nazareth.
First and foremost is the fact that the book of John was written somewhere near a hundred years after Jesus died. It is the only one of the “four” Gospels to contain the phrase ‘I am the way the truth and the life…” and is the most anti-Semitic of the Gospels. Which makes sense because the first two, Mathew and Mark, were actually written by Jewish authors. The Gospel of Luke was written by a Gentile like John, but was written 30 or so years earlier, before the desperate need for safety and organization by Christians got to the point of their creating hostility towards all things Jewish, (it was the book of John and its use by the church of the middle ages that lead to the slaughter of millions of Jews and Muslims in the Crusades).
My personal preference in Gospels runs to Mark first as it was the earliest, then Mathew and Luke. I tend to leave John to the Catholics and the fundamentalists.
I have taken to calling fundamentalists either “Paulists” or the “New Sanhedrin” as they prefer to point to the New Testament writings as “Law”. Flying directly in the face of Jesus' teachings that told us that we should not get lost in the law and that all of God’s people were free to come to his table. True followers of Jesus of Nazareth, understand that he did not come to enslave people under the law, but to free them to follow their hearts, and to use those hearts to make the world a better place for everyone.
It was those who came later, (particularly Paul, a convert/zealot who battled James and Peter for the direction of the church, read Acts) those who sought to organize a new religion under extremely dangerous conditions, who deliberately narrowed the words of Jesus to exclude those of other faiths or even those who had differing opinions regarding the Christian faith, such as the Gnostics and the Coptics.
When “Paulists” begin spouting that the only way to heaven is through belief in Jesus as the “one true” Son of God, they become no better than radical Muslims who believe that theirs is the one true faith or any religious zealot for that matter.
As Christians it is imperative to remember that Jesus taught that above all things we must first and foremost have a love of God and second we must have humility and tolerance to all. Those I believe were his words or as close to his words as we can get. The book of John is filled with words of political punditry and fear, and not likely from Jesus.
Peace,
RW
I have received a few responses to the relatively small number of blogs I have put up, and the most enthusiastic of them come from evangelical Christians and revolve around my calling the major religions of the world “credible”. I want to state here that this is not necessarily a religious blog, but do consider myself an amateur theologian. Spending a bit of my time reading from various religious and theological texts. I am most interested in the historical views of Jesus and the early Christians.
For the most part, whenever I speak with an evangelical Christian and mention my own belief in the validity of other faiths, they throw the Gospel of John at me. Hence I will respond to the e-mails I have received and then stay away from this topic for a while.
I have also gotten a few corrections in regards to my grammer, my defense is that I am originally from New Orleans where english is a second language. I use and editor for my "real" writing.
Okay, so here goes:
Now, here’s where I really piss off the fundamentalists, because I take the personal view that the Book of John is more of a Kitty Kelly unauthorized biography of Christ, or, more to the point, a book of political propaganda, used by the early church to separate itself from its ties to the Jewish faith, than an actual “witness” to the life and words of Jesus of Nazareth.
First and foremost is the fact that the book of John was written somewhere near a hundred years after Jesus died. It is the only one of the “four” Gospels to contain the phrase ‘I am the way the truth and the life…” and is the most anti-Semitic of the Gospels. Which makes sense because the first two, Mathew and Mark, were actually written by Jewish authors. The Gospel of Luke was written by a Gentile like John, but was written 30 or so years earlier, before the desperate need for safety and organization by Christians got to the point of their creating hostility towards all things Jewish, (it was the book of John and its use by the church of the middle ages that lead to the slaughter of millions of Jews and Muslims in the Crusades).
My personal preference in Gospels runs to Mark first as it was the earliest, then Mathew and Luke. I tend to leave John to the Catholics and the fundamentalists.
I have taken to calling fundamentalists either “Paulists” or the “New Sanhedrin” as they prefer to point to the New Testament writings as “Law”. Flying directly in the face of Jesus' teachings that told us that we should not get lost in the law and that all of God’s people were free to come to his table. True followers of Jesus of Nazareth, understand that he did not come to enslave people under the law, but to free them to follow their hearts, and to use those hearts to make the world a better place for everyone.
It was those who came later, (particularly Paul, a convert/zealot who battled James and Peter for the direction of the church, read Acts) those who sought to organize a new religion under extremely dangerous conditions, who deliberately narrowed the words of Jesus to exclude those of other faiths or even those who had differing opinions regarding the Christian faith, such as the Gnostics and the Coptics.
When “Paulists” begin spouting that the only way to heaven is through belief in Jesus as the “one true” Son of God, they become no better than radical Muslims who believe that theirs is the one true faith or any religious zealot for that matter.
As Christians it is imperative to remember that Jesus taught that above all things we must first and foremost have a love of God and second we must have humility and tolerance to all. Those I believe were his words or as close to his words as we can get. The book of John is filled with words of political punditry and fear, and not likely from Jesus.
Peace,
RW
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I understand and appreciate this is not a “religious” blog… and will respect it, as such. (I, don’t consider myself a “religious” person.) However, you seem to be interested in vigorous dialogue… and even, perhaps, getting to the “truth” (we’ll see where that pursuit leads) and so, as such, I felt compelled to write. I’ll try and be brief. As for your “personal view” of the Disciple John as a “Kitty Kelly” and his Gospel an “unauthorized biography of Christ…” I’m almost not sure where to begin. We know that John was one of the three most intimate disciples of Jesus (along with Peter and older brother, James). He was an eyewitness to and participant in Jesus’ earthly ministry. After Christ’s ascension, he became a pillar in the Jerusalem church, ministered with Peter, authorized 1-, 2-, and 3-John and the Book of Revelation. More than any other gospel, John proclaims the divinity of Jesus. The apologetic purpose is closely related to the evangelistic purpose: he wrote to convince his reader of Jesus’ true identity as the incarnate God-Man. The entire gospel is organized around the eight “signs” or proofs that reinforce Jesus’ true identity leading to faith. As to being a book that looks to “separate itself from the ties of the Jewish faith…” Yes, it was written to a non-Jewish audience – primarily to believers (Jew and Gentile) but indirectly for the Orient where there were millions crying out in that day for deliverance – (Matthew to the Jews; Mark to the Romans; Luke to the Greeks). An “anti-Semitic… gospel?” How? Where? Look at John 4:22, “…salvation is of the Jews.” (By the way, John – James’ brother – was, indeed, Jewish and not Gentile.) For you to then launch into what people did, distorting the Word, during the Middle Ages is utterly irrelevant to what John wrote so much earlier. The Crusades were not some sort of mandate laid down in his gospel… or anywhere else in the Bible. Re: the date this gospel was written… Yes, it has often been dated late – toward the end of the first century – but there are many who present good reasons for dating it much earlier. [For more, see the John Rylands Papyrus that suggests the Gospel of John was already in wide circulation during the second century A.D.; some have even proposed a date prior to the destruction of the temple in A.D. 70. If it were already being read in Egypt and Ephesus, how early must it have been written in order to circulate so widely and so quickly; not as fast as Kitty Kelly, of course. Heck, she’s on the web, right? Sorry, don’t mean to be glib. But the time at which something is written does not, necessarily reflect its veracity. Back to the issues at hand… Why jump into talking about fundamentalists? (And, of course, I’m assuming you mean Christian fundamentalists. Which ones? At last count, there are some 40,000-plus Christian church “denominations”… we can probably stop counting. I do think that makes God quite sad.) Jesus came to fulfill the law (since we are utterly and hopelessly unable to live up to its standards) and yes, absolutely, anyone is free to come to “the table”. But to say that He came to “free [us] to follow [our] hearts” is well, a bit soft and fuzzy, to say the least. Read Luke 12:49-53, Matt. 10:32-39 – “Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father which is in heaven. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. He that receiveth you receiveth Me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent Me.” Wow, huh? Jesus is not soft and fuzzy. He is very clear (as recorded throughout the New Testament). Look, I’ll skip the rest of my notes and thoughts and wrap up with this: Either you believe Jesus is who He says He is or you don’t. There’s no middle ground with Christ. He can’t just be a “prophet” or an “example how to live” or “a good man.” He says He is the One True Son of God. If that’s not the case, to paraphrase C.S. Lewis, He’s either a liar or a lunatic. Christ came to provide THE way for man to regain his right relationship with God, the Father. And the Bible is the inerrant Word of God that, in part, shows us the way and helps keep us in the right relationship. (I once heard someone say that the Bible is God’s love letter to us. I like that.) Of course, you can quibble and argue all day – and that’s fine; it’s your choice and I will respect that, truly – but I believe God’s Word (the Bible) was delivered just as He wanted it delivered (all 66 books by 44 writers over hundreds of years). Otherwise, He’s not in control and the Bible then just becomes a salad bar for picking and choosing. In closing: Yes, Jesus taught, first and foremost, that we should love our Lord with all or heart and all our soul and all our strength. But second, it’s not as you’ve said (“we must have humility and tolerance to all”) but, rather, it is to love your neighbor as thyself. I would urge you to go back and re-read the Gospel of John… one of Christ’s closest disciples and to whom he gave the Revelation. Uh-oh, here comes more dialogue!! I welcome it and thank you for listening.
If you’re interested in historical views of Jesus and the early Christians, could I suggest, The Jesus I Never Knew by Philip Yancey. Twelve Ordinary Men (about the original disciples) by John MacArthur is good, also.
By the way, you said your first (favorite?) gospel is Mark's; well, it's really Peter's gospel, too, since he was Mark's amanuensis. ; )
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